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Alfie Windsor 1998
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This section of the site is our next project. It will describe what life was like for a typical Conway cadet during the various phases of the ship's life.

Ensigns & Crests

Cups & Prizes

Deck Plans

Hammocks

Motto

New Chums

Numbers

Petty Officers / Cadet Captains

Quarter Boys

Scholarships                

Slang

Teaser

Top & Cadet Numbering System

Uniforms

 

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Ensigns & Crests

There are three quite different emblems associated with Conway:

1. HMS Conway Ensign

There have been three formats to the HMS Conway ensign. The first ensign was simply the 'House Flag' of Conway's owners, the Merseyside MMSA. It is on the left below. In 1896 the Admiralty sanctioned use of the blue ensign defaced with a yellow castle. The version in the middle below was adopted in 1896 the one on the right in 1927. There are strict rules about its use governed by the Admiralty, not the Conway Club, these are set out here.

                

 

2. HMS Conway Badge

The castle with the motto and waves below and the naval crown above below is the official crest of the HMS Conway school ship. It was carved above the main entrance to the New Block. There have been many versions over the years and they can be seen here. The first from 1859 is on the left below. As Conway's legal successor, this badge is now the property of the Conway Merchant Navy Trust who have adapted it slightly for use by current Conway Cadets:

                      

3. Conway Club Crest

The crest showing the ship with a circlet of leaves and the motto beneath is the official badge of the Conway Club and its use is governed by one of the rules of the club. In one sense, this badge has nothing to do with the school ship HMS Conway. The crest evolved over time as shown below:

 

Cups & Prizes

 

Athletics Sports Top Cup 1927. On stand, ht 26.5 cms, no cover 2 handles
Badminton Cup See Julian Holt Cup
Barnes Cup Rowing - Inter watch gig race (ship cadets only - see Goulding Cup)
Bartlet Cup Inter-divisional Breeches Buoy
Boxing Challenge Cup Assayed Sheffield 1901, 14.5 ozs. Ht 15 cms, No cover or stand
Breeches Buoy Cup See Bartlett Cup
British & Commonwealth Prize Sextant for Seamanship
British India Prize Sextant for mathematics
Broadbent Cup Football Challenge Trophy. Stand, ht 37.5 cms, no handles or cover.
Brocklebank Prize Sextant presented by SIr Ralph Brocklebank for proficiency in Nautical Astronomy (later for Seamanship)
Captain Price Prize Bibles presented by the Conway Committee in memory of Capt James Price for good conduct and diligence. That's the band out then.
Captains Medal Best all round boxing performance
Carlier Prize An aneroid barometer awarded to the 'Most Efficient Working Hand' each term. The story goes it was awarded to the QB in their final term who it was reckoned should have been a Cadet Captain but wasn't.
Chairman of the Conway Committee Prize Telescope fro the senior class, books for all others for proficiency in the English language.
Charles Barton Prize Awarded by J W Hughes fro general proficiency in the RN Class. Two prizes each for the senior, middle and junior class, usually books and certificates.
Commander George Massey RNR Prize For the cadet considered most deserving.
Committee Cup For athletics may be the same as the Norbury cup
Conway Club Prize Aneroid barometer for management of boats
Conway Gig v no 1 co. RNVR Mersey Division Whaler Cup Awarded every summer to winning inter-top B gig's crew. Ht 15.5 cms, 2 handles, no cover or stand
Conway Worcester Boat Race Cup First awarded 1890. Now displayed at Club dinners. Assayed London 1890, 55ozs. Ht 47 cms, 2 handles and cover, no stand
Conway Worcester Rugby Cup First played for in 1937 at Birmingham University. Conway Won 12 - Nil.
Cricket Cup (Cups Book says Shield?) The October 1970 Cadet magazine says this was awarded to Mizzentop.
Derby Prize Sextant. Presented annually by The earl of Derby for management of boats.
Dodd's School Quaiche The October 1970 Cadet magazine says this was awarded to Forecastle but does to say what for!
Dr Hopes Prize Book for best 'also ran'
Drew Cup Presented by his mother Mrs Drew of Oswestry, in memory of Cadet Drew lost in HMS. E14 . Swimming - the "down strait swim", 600 yds along the strait. In the the October 1970 Cadet magazine it was awarded for the swim across the strait and back a dead heat between Elston and Shaw!
Dufferin Prize Awarded by William Rathbone Esq fro proficiency in manual seamanship, sailmaking, splicing wire and rope, stropping blocks, heaving the lead etc.
Flyweight Boxing Cup Awarded to J Mayo 1940. On stand, ht 14 cms.
Football Challenge Cup Assayed Birmingham 1904, 25.5ozs. Ht 25.5 cms, 2 handles, no cover or stand.

Goulding Cup Rowing - Inter watch gig race (shore cadets only - see Barnes Cup)
Gym Challenge Cup 1961. Ht 21.5 cms, 2 handles, no cover or stand.
Haig Cup Mountaineering - Best divisional team in an annual mountain competition. Presented by the parents of J E Haig (41-43)
Hall Line Prize Aneroid barometer for Science
Harley Memorial Shield A note in the October 1970 Cadet magazine says the Harley Cup (Mirrors) was awarded to PS Cotgrove. If anyone knows his whereabouts perhaps he can provide more information.
(George) Hobson Cup Presented annually from 1908 to the smartest top in the ship. Assayed Birmingham 1907, 19.25ozs. On stand ht 32cms, 2 handles no cover. 425.
Horsfall Prize Presented by T B Horsfall for proficiency in Scripture history (later for divinity). Book s for each class.
Inter-top Team (Band & Mizzentop) Race Cup Ht 15 cms, 2 handles, no cover or stand.
Inter-Divisional Swimming Cup 2 handles, stand, no cover, ht 20.5cms.
Julian Holt Cup Presented by Julian Holt for badminton.
Johnson Cup Junior swimming but by the October 1970 Cadet magazine it was awarded for the Junior Relay.
Junior Long Jump Cup No details. No handles.
Junior Cross Country Challenge Cup Assayed Sheffield 1896, 21.25ozs. Stand, 2 handles, no stand or cover. Ht 30 cms.
Junior 100 Yards Cup No details.
Lobe Jones Parry of Madyrn Cup Rifle shooting. (to the volunteers of Carnarvonshire 1875). Set on 3 crossed rifles. Assayed Birmingham 1863, 6.5ozs. Ht 17.5 cms, no cover
Kings Gold / Queens Gold Medal na
Kings Prize (Binoculars) Cadet obtaining highest marks in the RN Entrance exam
Laird Prize Binoculars, presented by John Laird for proficiency in trigonometry, algebra and arithmetic.
Langton Prize Aneroid barometers for each of the senior and junior class. Presented by W Langton.
Liverpool Shipwreck and Humane Society Medal ?
McIver Prize Binoculars presented by Charles McIver for proficiency in Seamanship. Later awarded for Spanish.
McNab Cup Assayed Birmingham 1937. 14.25 ozs, stand, no cover, ht 25.5 cms.
Main Prize Binoculars presented by Captain T Main for knowledge of the laws governing the deviation of the compass in iron ships.
Marksman of the Year Cup Assayed Chester 1910, 7.25 ozs. Ht 13.5 cms, 2 handles, no cover or stand.
Medical Lectures Prize Book presented by W H Combs fro proficiency in medical subjedcts
Mitchell Cup This was presented in December 1922 by Mr H Mitchell on behalf of his son who was a cadet 1920-22. It was a boxing trophy, originally for boxers under 8 stones. Each winner received a small replica. Later it was awarded to boxes under 10 stones. Assayed London 1922, 55.5ozs. Stand, 2 handles, cover, no stand. Ht 29 cms.
MMSA Medal From at least 1909 For proficiency in all branches of training and education. Gold and silver medals were awarded.
MMSA Presidents Prize Prayer Books presented by Capt J Trenery for second in each class for good conduct and diligence.
Moody Cup Sailing - MSODs raced by Cadets choosing their own crew. NOW Conway Club Cruising Association Cup for the best Annual Cruising Log submitted by an Old Conway.
Mulock Cup First awarded in 1912 for dinghy racing
Navigators & General Insurance Prize Binoculars for Signals
Norbury Cup Norbury was a cadet 1915-17. Cross country race. 2 small holes in side of cup. Stand, ht 36 cms, no handles or cover.
Odyssey Prize Binoculars for navigation
P&O & Orient Line Prize Sextant for rule of the road
Parker Prize Gold medallion for proficiency in rowing.
Partridge Cup See Tennis Challenge Cup
Perkins Cup Awarded annually to winner of a rugby 7 a side tournament open to teams open to all staff and tops. Assayed London 1909, 37.25ozs. Ht 28 cms, 2 handles, no stand or cover
Pilkington Shield Rowing - Inter watch cutter race
Pledger Cup Inter-divisional sports challenge cup. Assayed Birmingham 1923, 8ozs. On stand ht 31cms, no handles or cover.
Port Dinorwic Cup The October 1970 Cadet magazine says this was raced off Plas Newydd in the fifes.
Powles Cup 1 of 3 Awarded for "Lifeboat Drill".
Powles Cup 2 of 3 Awarded annually to the smartest top ashore. First awarded in 1951 to Mizzentop. From 1955 used as Inter-divisional cricket cup. On stand, ht 31 cms
Powles Cup 3 of 3 Sports Challenge Cup. On stand, ht 22 cms, no handles or cover
Presidents Prizes Books for history, geography and english.
Rankin Prize Presented by Robert Rankin for proficiency in the use of charts and signals (flags)
Relay Race Cup 1932. On stand ht 10.5 cms
Rifle Cup For shooting
Rowing Bowl The October 1970 Cadet magazine says this was awarded to Mizzentop but it is not clear whether it is the same as the Rowing Cup
Rowing Cup Cutter race 1934. Awarded to E K Ballard. See Rowing Bowl
Royal Geographical Society Prizes Three, atlas, telescope and book for proficiency in Geography.
Royal Humane Society Medal Proficiency in Swimming with reference to saving life from drowning.
Royal Indian Marine Prize Presented by OC serving as Commodores and officers in the RIN for Proficiency in rule of the road. Later awarded for technical and executive work
Rugby Cup ?
Sailing Trophy Old Boys v The Ship 1965 - 74
Samuelson Prize Instruments presented by Sir B Samuelson MP for proficiency in physical science (later engineering)
Scorpions Cup Awarded to the term's outstanding sportsman. By 1970 it had become the Sportsman Of The Year Cup. Assayed Birmingham 1913. 7.5 ozs. 2 handles, no stand or cover. Ht 14.5cms
School Prizes Various prizes were awarded, the "First Class", practical navigation (second and third classes), seamanship (2nd, 3rd and 4th classes), trigonometry, algebra and arithmetic , history, junior classes - all books
Shell Tankers Prize Binoculars for greatest proficiency in all subjects
Sports Challenge Cup Junior Assayed London 1924, 17ozs. Stand, no handles or cover. Ht 35.5 cms
Sports Challenge Cup Senior1938 Originally won by W A Johnstone (37-38) on sports day Easter term.
Sports Top Cup For athletics
Senior Gym Cup 1903 Simply marked Xmas 1903. Now used as the House cup for the Kelly School Water Polo Club. To date Conway House seems to have won it more than any other house.
Shaw Prize Aneroid barometer, For Proficiency in Meteorology
Sims Cup The October 1970 Cadet magazine says this was awarded for Swimming Sport. Could it be the same as the Swimming Cup,
Snowdon Scouting Trophy ?
Spittlehouse Cup Presented annually to the runner up in the Moody Cup sailing competition. Assayed Sheffield 1902 15.25 ozs. Awarded 1961-74. 2 handles, stand and cover. Ht 33cms
Sportsman of the Year Cup See Scorpions Cup
South African Centenary Shield Donated by SA OC Association to celebrate the centenary in 1959
Special Sextant Prize Sextant, awarded by the White Star Line for proficiency in use of the sextant.
Sports Challenge Cup First awarded 1919. Now displayed at Club dinners. Assayed Shefffield 1897, 38.25ozs. Ht 30 cms, 2 handles and cover, no stand.
Staff v Cadets Tennis Cup Assayed London 1912, 9 ozs. Ht 11 cms, 2 handles, no cover or stand.
Swimming Cup 1931. No handles. 30. Could it be the same as the Sims Cup?
Tate Prize Barometer, awarded annually to the runner up for the Kings Gold Medal
Tennis Challenge Cup Stbd vs Port. Assayed Birmingham 1921, 9 ozs. Ht 16 cms, 2 handles, no cover or stand.
Torr Prize Fitzroy barometer presented by John Torr for proficiency in History.
Treasurers Prizes Gold and silver medals awarded for proficiency in all branches of training and education.
Trinity House Prize Sextant, awarded annually to the winner of the Kings Gold Medal
Tug of War Cup Stbd vs port 1909. 2 handles, stand, no cover, ht 28.5 cms.
Vaynol Cup Swimming - Cross strait swimming race - presented by Sir Michael Duff (OC) in 1951 and first won by David Nutman
Vaynol Trophy Free style cross strait swim. Assayed London 1903. 36 ozs. Large bowl, 2 handles, stand, no cover, ht 20cms.
(Captain) Webb Memorial Shield Swimming - senior relay
Weevil Cup For boxing, over 10 stones.
Wilson Reid Challenge Cup 1959, for best cadet of the year in first aid. Assayed Birmingham 1912. 20.25 ozs, 2 handles, stand, no cover, ht 26 cms.




Deck Plans

In 1953 in preparation for the planned refit., drauhmsten from Alfred Holt & Co produced incredibly detailed plans of every deck of the Ship. The originals are held by the Friends Of HMS Conway but copies are reproduced below.

Conway Hold

Conway Lower Deck

Conway Orlop Deck

Conway Main Deck

Conway Upper Deck

Conway Cross Section

 

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Motto

The ship's motto was "Quit Ye Like Men Be Strong". This was taken from 1 Corinthians Chapter 16 verse 13 in the King James's Bible. The newer version of the bible translates it somewhat differently: "be men of courage; be strong".

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Hammocks

1945 QBs were allowed to use hammock stretchers which apparently made them much more comfortable!

1948. The order 'Lash up and stow' prompted a headlong helter-skelter down the hatch ladders in a race to reach your hammock into which you hastily stowed your bedding and lashed it up with (as I recall) seven equally spaced half-hitches which you laid back on with all your weight before rushing it off to fall in line with the rest of your Top to present your handiwork for inspection. The last one in the line immediately got three over the backside (somebody had to be last!). The inspecting CC then bent your hammock double to loosen the lashings, and then vigorously tugged at the canvas in the six spaces between the lashings to see if he could expose any bedding. You got one over the 'Butt' for each space where bedding could be exposed, and it follows that if bedding could be exposed in one space the canvass could be pulled through to expose it in the other five! And that was just the start of yet another day for your long-suffering 'Butt'! Happy Days!...

1949. The general opinion was that they were comfortable to sleep in, but I slept in one for 2.5 years and I disagree. I adjusted to nettles, and even brought a small pillow from home and smuggled it onboard, but I could never get as comfortable as a half decent bed. Furthermore some miscreant could let you down in the night just for fun, and then there was the awful moment in the Summer when you had to put the whole kit and kaboodle on your shoulders and carry it ashore for scrubbing. At 13 years of age an about 130lbs ringing wet to carry it complete with contents down or up steep ladders and into a cutter jammed in with as many as possible and then up the pier to the scrubbing area was not a happy time. If memory serves the half hitches were actually supposed to be marline hitches and there was a difference in that to make the hitch the rope went over the standing part not under. The punishment for such infractions was you had to take your hammock ashore and double around the parade ground with it. Some of the tough kids would keep going for several hours but eventually collapse face down in the dirt and not moving, and the Seamanship Officer and Ex Heavy Weight Champion of the Navy would just stand there in the rain staring into the middle distance.

1952. Another shipboard memory concerns sleeping in a hammock. Some New Chums, myself included, had difficulty in lashing-up and stowing properly in the mornings. The ideal was to fold bedding and pyjamas into the canvas such a way the hammock could be tightly lashed in a series of looped rope, and end up by being relatively firm. It could then be hoisted onto one's shoulder and carried down to the hold where hammocks were stowed in the daytime. As you can imagine, a floppy hammock was not only difficult to wield, but could easily become undone to the acute embarrassment of the cadet concerned.

On my first night aboard, I wondered whether it would be possible to sleep on my right side, as I habitually did. It was!

Some apparently helpful seniors would "assist" New Chums to attach their hammocks, but use a slip-knot, so that the hapless cadet would crash to the deck when he got into his hammock. Of course, this was potentially very dangerous, as serious injury could have resulted had a New Chum landed sharply on his head.

Once hammocks we were safely slung, and we were comfortably settled for the night, a bugler would sound the Last Post. If this was expertly played, it could be a very moving moment. Sleep, like death, should ideally involve a trusting surrender, and there was something strangely humbling and comforting in this knowledge, underlined as it was by the evocative notes of bugler.

1968. Whilst sleeping in hammocks ended with the loss of the ship, even in 1968 cadets were still sleeping on hammocks as they were by then used as a liner between bed mattresses and bed springs.

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New Chums

Life onboard was very strict with many rules and regulations. When new cadets arrived they were called New Chums and given a period of grace to learn the ship's customs and patterns. After that all too short period, punishment - usually with a ropes end called a 'teaser' and delivered by one of the senior cadets, was sure to follow any breach. These arrangements were still in place over 100 years after the ship first opened.

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Numbers  (of cadets)

1859          17 rising to 50 (104 in total for the first year)
Feb 1860    102
Jun 1860    79
Jun 1862    107
Dec 1862   120
1863          117
1864          123
1865          126
1866          108
1867          94 (dropped to 89 later in the year)
1868          95 rising to 123
1869          122
1870          125 dropping to 115
1871          113 rising to 123
1873          127
1874          114
1876          123 rising to 163
1878          175
1879          178
1880          162
1882-3       172
1884          176
1885          The 2000th cadet joined
1888          153
1889          207
1891          199

1893          160 cadets (on 17 th April )
1896          The 3000th cadet joined in April
1906          Average age of cadets joining was 14 and a half but boys as young as 12 were aboard
1907          The 4000th cadet joined in September
1916          The 5000th cadet joined in April
1917          220, over 100 joined the Royal Navy
1928          The 6000th cadet joined
1933          Only 7 cadets joined
1934          130
1939          180
1941          250
1945          250
1947          260
1949          275
1970          180

Cadet Numbering System

Every Conway cadet had a unique number although few understood how these   were allocated. It was all down to your first entry in the ship's registers. The registers are very large tomes (about 4 inches thick) and they have numbered pages and as each term arrived they were entered mainly, but not absolutely all, in alphabetical order. Then, wherever your entry fell by page number so that became your cadet number. For instance, Volume 13/36 (MMM numbering) showed   - Webber page 225 - Woodger   page 226 - Bissell page 227 - Hayter page 228 - then Allen page 229 and by the time it arrived at my name in alphabetical order, I ended up on page 268 so that was my number. This volume went up to page 300 - then the next volume (MMM 13/37) went from 301 to 599. And here again where your entry fell by page number so you acquired that number which had to go on all your worldly possessions and remains firmly engraved on each of our brains to this day. In fact, it was used mainly as an accounting number, to make sure they could find you easily in the ledger, where your fees (less any scholarship monies) were recorded as they were paid (or not in some cases) on the left hand page. Each cadet has two facing pages, both having the same number, the right-hand page has your school report marks etc copied into it, so if you have lost your reports you can still find them there in the archives of the Merseyside Maritime Museum.

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Petty Officers / Cadet Captains & Punishments

From the outset in 1859, a small number of senior baoys were promoted as Petty Officers responsible for the good and orderly day to day opeation of the ship. Each PO was given a specific area of repsonsibility, either for part of the ship e.g. Library & Armoury or Canteen, or for a body of cadets e.g. Port Fore and Stbd Main. The head boy was called the Chief Petty Oficer (CPO). POs had very considerbale power including layng on casual corporal punishment with a rope's end called a Teaser. In the RN they were called Starters - because a quick stoke would get slower sailors promptly statred on an order. Later a formal Gun Room system was instigated whereby POs had to charge a miscreant with a misdemenor which was then exmined in public by senior POs and punishements awarded. Punishment Books recorded all rports and outcomes. The majorioity  are now in the Comway ARchive at the meseyside maritime Museum, Liverpool. The punishemets still included corporal punishment but also (in the eyes of many cadets) far worse things like an early heave out.

At the end of the Christmas term Captain Broadent announced that the system of Petty Offciers was to stop forthwith and be replaced by a new title of Cadet Captin (Junior and Senior), with the heaad boy called the Chief Cadet Captain (CCC but more commonly still called the CPO)

From1899 a small number of senior cadets were made Cadet Captains and made responsible for the operation of part of a Top, There was one Senior Cadet Captain for each Top an he had a number of Junior Cadets Captains (JCC) to help him. The Chief Cadet Captain presided over them all. Promotions were awarded at the end of each term. 'Ranks' were indicated by gold braid on No 1 dress uniforms and by small collar badges for normal working kit. Punishemnet eveloved to include early heave outs with additional morning exercises, stone picking (with a marlin spike on hands and knees in the playing fields), extra duties and loss of shore leave. As before many cadets preferred  the Teaser - it was over an done with quickly - no one wantted to get up early and do exercises or stand watches during the miniscule amout of free time allowed. The Teaser stopped in 1968 on the change form a Captain Superintendent to a Haeadmaster in command. Your author as CPO deleivered those last strokes.



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Quarter Boys

In the 1850s, in order to qualify as a merchant navy officer a four year apprenticeship had to be served at sea. The Liverpool shipping company of Jones, Palmer & Co and others had, at the opening of the school, announced that two or three years on the Conway would be accepted by them as the equivalent of one year at sea, reducing their apprenticeship time. In 1861 the Board Of Trade decided that two years spent training at Conway would count as one year served as a cadet at sea. Thus Conway cadets only had to complete three years training at sea instead of the four required for anyone going straight to sea. For this reason Cadets in their last term were called Quarter Boys or QBs. This practice continued for over 100 years until closure in 1974. Cadets received a Conway Passing Out Certificate of Exemption when they left Conway.

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Scholarships

Business Clothworkers
  Grocers
  Fishmongers
Charities Leverhulme
Education authorities Anglesey
  Birkenhead
  Caernarvon
  Staffordshire
  Wallasey
  West Sussex
Others Marchwood
Personal James Knott (for boys from Tyneside)
  Captain Bruce Thompson
  Captain F J Walker
Shipping Companies Blue Star
  Canadian Pacific
  Indo China Steam Navigation Co (in memory of Lt Thomas Wilkinson VC RNR)
  P & O
  Shell
Shipping Organisations Lloyds Register
  Merchant Navy Fund South Africa
  Marine Society
  Old Boys Naval Prize Fund

Slang

Conways developed a whole language of their own in addition to normal naval terminology.

Band Shag Member of the band and/or 'free thinker'
Bishop Out of date or old fashioned
Bilge Cod the rarely served fish
Boris An unclean cadet
Boris Box In the New Block each cadet had a chest of drawers for their belongings so the old sea chests were superfluous. Rather than throw them away, they were cut down in size, placed at the foot of each bunk and used to store dirty laundry until wash day. The term Boris meant an unclean cadet so the boxes were soon nicknamed Boris Boxes.
Brightwork Anything shiny or polished.
Brightwork Juice Brasso.
Bull's Ballet ???
Cheese Crap Cheese & Potatoes
Clouts Pieces of threadbare bedcovers that cadets would slide around on to improve the shine of their section of deck and to avoid damage to it.
Condenny Condensed milk. Obviously a delicacy that spanned the years as I remember, like Masefield, using a spike to punch two holes in the lid and then sucking the sweet sticky stuff out.
Conway Grace "We thank the Lord for what we've had,
It wasn't good,it wasn't bad,
The sodduk was stale, the skilly was green
But thank the Lord the plates were clean"
Cow Juice milk
Cuts Being struck over the backside with the Teaser.

"I received 26 cuts in my first term, someone later told me it was a record, but not one I relished! I always wondered why the gap between each "cut" was always timed to perfection to cause maximum pain, until I became a JCC and was told to recite to myself "May the Lord strengthen my arm and harden my heart as I administer justice to this culprit" between cuts."

Dangleberry jam ???
Dead man's leg Jam roly poly
Dead man's tool Long suet pudding with sultanas.
Ditching the gash Throwing out the Gash
First Spare! Request for any uneaten food
Fresh juice water
Galley Trogs Welsh kitchen staff.
Gash Another word for Yak
Greese Butter
Grit Sugar
King of the Woods The most powerful QB, later the QB most other cadets thought should have been a cadet captain.
Meat Crap Meat and potatoes
Murphy Half a baked potato
Nervey

Impertinent as in 'You nervy bastard'

New Chum New cadet just joined the ship
Nix A Buff Look out - someone has broken wind!!.
Nix Oh! Look out!
Pretty spare chum Bullshit
QB Senior cadet in his last term
Returnig gash! The Yak tub was emptied over the side. Anything blown back onto the ship was called out as...
Scouse Irish stew (obvious really)
Skilley Tea (any hot drink in earlier years)
Shag The shape a cadet bent into his cap. The more independantly minded the individual - the greater the shag in his cap.
Shit On A Raft Kidneys or liver on toast.
Slack party Group of cadets performing a punishment detail
Soddack/sawduk Bread
Sawduk for a spread Usually heard right after the bread load came aboard the old ship with the usual inventory shrinkage!!
Suction Suction was the equivalent of modern brown-nosing. When anybody obtained an unusual favour it was always put down to suction, often accompanied by horrible sucking noises, rather like a pump running dry
Sweep An area of the ship that a cadet was responsible for cleaning and maintaining. Every cadet had one.
Teaser Ropes end used for corporal punishment of cadets (by senior cadets). See Cuts
To Vulch See Vulture
Toe Nail Pie

A stodgy pud with "bits" in.

Train Crash Tinned tomatoes on toast.
Vulture These were people you would eyeball your plate in the hope you left something worth eating
Windmill Party ??
Yack Rubbish or dirt
Yack tub Sawn off bits of old barrel ends, fitted with rope handles on either side, and used as rubbish containers. In those non-environmentally friendly days I seem to recall they were simply emptied over the side for the gash to be taken away on the tide
Yuck Pilchards in tomato sauce

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Teaser

The 'Teaser' probably derived its name from the rope ‘Starters’ used historically in the RN; short lengths of rope used to strike, encourage or "start" any crewman who did not respond promptly to an order. The Teaser was a vicious little weapon made from 3/8" tarred hemp maybe 18" overall with an eye-splice at one end, and a 6" back splice at the business end. The back splice thickened and strengthened the rope. The back splice was also "whipped" using a very thin twin to give it further strength and make it less flexible. It was stored in a bottle of salt water which gave it the consistency of a metal bar. Sometimes there was metalwork in the whipping. This rope was then used to beat cadets as a punishment. In the early years it was wielded liberally by anybody with the slightest pretence to petty authority. Over time it was used far less and in more controlled circumstances. It was an extremely painful punishment which very few Conway cadets avoided.

1943-45. Concerning the teaser in my time it was not used all that much. I think the first 2 or 3 weeks as new chums we were let off but as soon as it was over we were liable and I got 3 on the first day. It was from my Chief Cadet Captain he gave me an order and I asked "Why" I never questioned an order again but I did not get it much after that save under the bell, when according to Bossy I was in a disgusting condition at Sunday divisions. The Skipper Wah said he had seen a spot on my collar.

There was once a semi public flogging. Wah went into a pub near the Bangor pier and found 2 Cadets drinking. At Divisions the nest day before marching off the lower deck, the 2 Cadets were fallen in front of the Skipper and told that on account of their offence they would be flogged. "Mr Phelps please take these Cadets to the Orlop deck." Bossy turned up with a cane under his arm. "The Cadets under punishment follow me to the Orlop Deck" They did and we heard the thrashing taking place , 4 or 6. When finished they were marched back before the Skipper and Bossy reported "The Punishment carried out Sir" The Cadets were then told to fall in with their divisions and we marched away.

Another Cadet got 3 under the Bell on one occasion and when they had finished he did not get up and was told that he should turn in. "But I thought I was going to be thrashed Sir"

The thought of the teaser kept me from being caught out - I seem to remember was it not called being bummed?

1945/46 was a period when the teaser was used unmercifully. I well recall the lashing up of hammocks, and anything more than two minutes after your first day on the ship incurred the immediate wrath of a teaser wielding JCC. The lining up and bending the hammocks was done all the time, and one over the bum for every bit of bedding in sight. Also one if it was considered that you did not employ enough energy in bending the hammock over. Never really enjoyed the hammock, except as a QB when we had the seniority to use hammock stretchers. The last term was the only time that this little luxury was permitted. The teaser was used indiscriminately on anyone for any dreamt up excuse. Failure to ask to ask for "top" when moving around the deck was a cardinal sin. I went to the Conway a wimp, but when I eventually left and went to sea, it was a life of luxury in comparison and the hard knocks were easy to take. A great pity that we are unable to knock the young blokes into shape today. In the long run they will be the losers.

1947-49. Any CC or JCC could legitimately carry a teaser to administer "justice" for any breach of rules, spoken or unspoken, any breach of cadet etiquette, or any other reason that offended the sensibilities of a CC. Official Justice was done under the ship's bell at lights-out, usually by a CC under the watchful eye of an officer, and usually limited to "six of the best"!! As JCC and cox'n of the pinnace, I had the "honour" of carrying a teaser, which I am pleased now to say that was used VERY infrequently and only for genuine transgressions.

1949 saw a very dramatic reduction in teaser use on the appointment of Captain Hewitt. Prior to that year teaser punishment was not an after-lights-out-washroom job for genuine misconduct, but was the on the spot immediate consequence mostly for minor infringements of Conway rites and practices; failure to ask permission before crossing the deck or going up a ladder for example, being the last to fall-in to a bugle call, you could get six for a poorly lashed-up hammock, and so on. As a result teaser were much in evidence everywhere and it seemed to me that more than just CC's carried teasers. The widespread daily teaser wielding which needed little excuse was a constant fact of shipboard life. I doubt if any from those days can remember how many 'cuts' they had and certainly not tell you any of the petty reasons why. From 1949 its use was severely limited and infinitely more regulated. Certainly the ever present threat of the teaser as we had known it was no longer there after 1949. Misconduct was an entirely different matter. For offences of this nature there was either the much preferred immediate Gun-room job, or more serious offenders were dealt with by the Duty Warrant Officer under the bell after lights-out. (Presumably so sighted at the through decks hatch so that just like the bell, the whacks could be heard the length of the ship by us all as we lay (thoughtfully!) in our hammocks.)

1954. The funny thing is that I can't remember this beastly rope's end being called a teaser. Although I do definitely remember cuts. Cuts weren't too bad really although they couldn't half raise a welt if the administering CC put his mind to the job at hand. I think I must have been the only cadet ever to have been caned by the Murph, the six-gun toting Shurff of Beaumaris. I've no recollection of how I aroused his ire, but I remember going round to the camp staff room (not far from the Hold huts) and finding Murph reading Sea Breezes. He asked me why I had come and I reminded him he wanted to cane me. He looked at me rather doubtfully and told me to bend down, which I duly did. Seemingly with great effort and a considerable amount of panting he applied the cane to my backside with four of the gentlest taps you can imagine. That was it. So we shook hands and I sloped off.

1954-56. The teaser was still fully employed and as Deputy Chief my allowance officially was up to 3 cuts, Senior Cadet Captains 2, and Juniors was one cut. This was matched by an equal number of Extra Watches or for a delightful variation Slack Party.

1955-58. I can remember many a visit to the washroom for cuts. You were expected to shake hands afterwards too, I usually did but not to xxxxxxx!

1958-60. I can definitely and personally verify the existence of teasers and subsequent "cuts" in 58-60. I managed to qualify to experience them both in the first term at the House and later at the Camp. As I recall, firstly for hiding in my locker to avoid the early morning pre-breakfast run which qualified for a couple of cuts. Too many of us chose to hide on the same day and the large absence must have been rather noticeable as we were all exposed in a snap locker inspection. To receive the cuts, the drill was to appear in pyjamas in the bathroom just before lights out for the rounds to report to the JCC administering them. It was then obligatory to return to the dormitory and display them to all and sundry to see how good (accurate) the JCC was. There was some admiration, not from the recipient, when consecutive cuts had been administered all in one place. I managed at least one set of six cuts from an officer for suspicion of smoking when at the camp. Apparently when returning from shore leave the nicotine fingers and somewhat smoky uniform were a bit of a giveaway.

My QB book has a centre double page for the 'Gun-Room' signatures. Varoious JCCs are listed surrounded by my own scribed border of well known phrases or sayings of the time. "I'll turn you in" "Did you get a substitute?", "That's no excuse", "Do you agree with the punishment?" (that really was a good one), " Three cuts", "Days Slack", "Early Heave Out", "Shake hands" (no hard feelings afterwards!!), "Extra watch". I think I experienced all of them more than once. They were after all my formative years. But no grudges held, I know I deserved all I got. It was just that once bent-over there was a pre-strike tightening and smoothing of the seat of ones trousers by the CC which I rather resented, a bit of slack might have eased the pain a bit.

1959. Cuts came in groups of one to 12! Down at the house I remember having six because a parcel of food from home had 1 included.

1961. It is amazing to think how many cuts were given for smoking. It never seemed to deter most people. Most of the Officers smoked - in fact I believe Hewitt smoked - and never thought for a minuite about the double standard. As someone who has had to motivate people to excellence in my live after Conway, I look back on the use of the Teaser (which was, as noted, used all through my time) and wonder what on earth the people in charge were thinking! My lasting memory of the teaser was having to get an extra cut because I refused to say Thank You and shake hands with the cadet captain who delivered the cuts!

1964. I recall falling out bigtime in my first term with the DCPO House my Divison JCC. Think I ended up with 24 "cuts" that term, the last 3 on the last day of term for coming second in a fight! My mother saw the damage a few days later and was more concerned at the bruises on my buttocks than the stitches in my mouth!

1967. "Teaser" salt water soaking was definitely still on in '67 and I can remember being told that saying the phrase "May the Lord harden my heart and strengthen my arm to administer justice to this culprit!" was just long enough to let the sting of the first cut really take home! Still I always preferred the instant justice of cuts to being forced to run up and down the dock road holding stones in outstretched arms until you lost all feeling, had involuntary tears rolling down your cheeks and still had some sadistic b...d screaming at you at the top of his lungs, threatening you with another early heave out!

1968. The Teaser was still in use although in a very limited and controlled way. It’s appearance was little changed although it no longer had an eye splice at one end. It was kept in a milk bottle full of salt water which had the effect of stiffening it so it was more like a solid metal rod than a length of rope. Any offence or misdemeanour was liable to result in the cadet being put on a charge by the JCC or Senior Cadet Captain. JCCs could also be put on a charge by an SCC. Offenders would have to line up outside the Gun Room – generally with some trepidation as cuts were very painful. They always caused bruising and often drew blood, recipients sometimes went straight from the Gun Room to sick bay! Not all cadets could stand the pain and had to return for their allocated number of cuts to be completed. Offenders were marched into the Gun Room, accompanied by their accuser. The CCC or his deputy (standing behind a desk with the SCCs standing around him) would read out the charge, give the offender an opportunity to explain himself before some (if any) punishment was awarded. More often than not this was a Slack Party or extra watches (both of which deprived the person of what little free time they had), an early heave out (and we got up early enough as it was) or a number of cuts from the teaser. The CCC could deliver 6, other cadet captains lesser numbers depending on rank. Any cadet who was promoted to Cadet Captain and who had never received any cuts would have to receive some before they were allowed to deliver them as punishement to other cadets. All punishments were recorded in the Punishment Book and reviewed by Captain Hewitt. (Ed: Punishment Books are all held by the Club and are not in the Conway Archive).

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Top System

1859 Cadets were organised into Port And Starboard Watches. During the day one watch would be below at school, the other on deck for nautical training.
1891 The part of ship allotted to each top differed over the years. In Masefield's time the Foretops had the Orlop Deck and the Focslemen the Lower Deck. In our time the decks were as follows: Foretops - Upper Deck,    Maintops -Main Deck,   Mizentops - Lower Deck,   Focsles - Orlop Deck.
1915 The Top System was revised so that new entries were together in one top. New Chums joined as Fo'c's'lemen and then moved to Maintop (the biggest boys), the smallest to Mizentop and the rest to Foretop.
1937 New chums at the end of first term went either to Port or Starboard mizzen (if small or skinny) until their final term, whilst the jocks went in succession through the other tops from Port main to Port Fore, to Starboard Fore and finally Starboard Main as QB's unless they became CC's or Band.
1939-41 At this time new entries were placed in either Port or Starboard Focsle for their 1st term on board. In their 2nd term they were moved to either Starboard Foretop, Mizzentop, Quarterdeck (Band) or Hold. In their 3rd term they moved to Port Maintop and in their 4th term they moved to Port Foretop. In their 5th and 6th terms they moved to Starboard Maintop apart from those who had been made Senior or Junior Cadet Captains.
1943 In addition to the existing Top arrangements, a systems of 'Ships' was introduced (by the Cadet Captains) to encourage sporting competition:

Cossack wore black
Howe wore gray
Nestor wore blue
Ohio wore yellow
Rawlpindi wore red
Sea lion wore green.

Many of these ships were re-incarnated as dormitories when shore based accommodation was introduced.

1946

New Chums were in Fo'c's'le
2nd term: starboard maintop
3rd term: starboard foretop
4th term: port maintop
5th term: port foretop
6th term: Hold
No Mizentop!

 

1948

In our time, joining September 1948, the organization was as follows: New chums went into the focsles. In their second term (minus the smaller   cadets who went into the Mizentops, and a few who went into the Hold Division)   they went en bloc into what had been the Senior Top of the previous term. Thus in the Easter term of 1949 we (who had been Port and Starboard Focsles) went en bloc into Starboard Fore (less those who went to the Mizentops or Hold). Our part of ship was the starboard upper deck.The scheme was that we would then have stayed together for the rest of our time in the ship, being depleted by promotions to CCs.

The situation of having a Top composed of all one seniority did not lend itself to internal competitive sport,   so there were six "Ships" (Howe, Cossack, Sealion, Rawalpindi, Nestor, Ohio) -   akin to Houses - composed of a cross section of all seniorities. which competed in various sports for the Pledger Cup.

 

1949

The new chums always went into the two focsles. Exceptionally, when there was a large entry, the occasional overflow probably went into the Mizzentops.In the Easter term of 1949 the Quarterdeck division was formed of   surplus new chums - Mike Llewellyn was SCC. His new chums won the Hobson Cup, not a very frequent occurrence. The Quarterdeck Division sometimes housed the Band.

In the days when sail drill was still regularly exercised (right into the 1890s) it seems likely that, after a term in one of the focsles, a cadet would proceed to a Top in accordance with his size - and in accordance with the size of the gear on the mast belonging to the Top. When and if he grew he would proceed into other Tops. The Maintopmen seem to have always had the reputation of  being hefty laddies, which accords with this supposition. Tops would then consist of different members of Terms, which seems to accord with what Masefield writes. At some time (probably after the demise of sail drill) the practice became that the Focslemen (minus the small ones destined for the Mizentops) after their first term term moved into a Top, but in their third and subsequent  terms moved progressively into other Tops, still remaining together as a Term (with the exception of those who had gone to make up numbers in the Hold Division or had become CCs of other Tops or Supernumerary CCs). This method would ring the changes as to working on different decks/parts of ship. The Hold Division was composed of a mixture of different terms. Each Focsle and each Top had a Senior and a Junior Cadet Captain. (e.g. there was a Senior and a Junior for Starboard Fore and a Senior and a Junior for Port Fore). The exception being the Hold Division (and when it existed the Quarterdeck Division) which had one SCC and one JCC. Supernumerary CCs (Boat CCs, Mailmaster, Rec Room CC, Bathroom CC, Pulling & Sailing Boats CC, etc) were not attached to a Top. They were spread among the messes for meals.

This system seems to have prevailed into the 1940s, but sometime in that decade there was then another change.

 

Sept 1949

At the end of the Summer term 1949 the Ship moved from Bangor to Plas Newydd. The Christmas term 1949 saw the opening of the Shore Base and for the first time new chums did not join the Ship, but spent their first term in the Nelson Block at Plas Newydd. Some spent their second term ashore also. Each Top (or strictly speaking Division) on board now had one SCC and two Junior CCs. Ashore there was a SCC (Deputy CCC) in overall charge and five JCCs, one for each Division. The unwieldy system of "Ships" for sport was now unnecessary and was abolished.

1964

By the mid 60s (certainly from 64) New Chums were placed directly into one of the Tops/ Divisions (Focsle, Fore, Main and Mizzen) where they remained for the duration.

The system of allocation is not absolutely clear but it seems to have been in blocks of 3-5 cadet numbers. The Christmas 64 Watch Bill shows e.g. 41- 43 in Fxl (Andes dorm), 55-59 in Fxl (Nestor), 110-112 in Foretop (Rawlpindi) and 66-70 in Mizzen (Jervis Bay).

Hold by then was not a division but an "overflow" dorm (Mauretania) in the Nelson Block. Cadets there were allocated either individually or in pairs of cadet numbers. It held cadets from all 4 tops. For some reason there are odd gaps in the numbering sequence eg no 73, 101 or 113. Oddly my number was 72 but when I was still in the house with most of my term, 73-76 were also my term and Fxl but in the New Block.

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Uniforms

1859 The uniform was of fine blue cloth with gilt anchor buttons The jacket had an upright collar with gold braid on the front of the collar. Caps bore the badge of the Liverpool Mercantile Marine Association.
1865 Cadets wore jumpers and round hats on board and for going ashore at Rock Ferry. On Sundays and for going ashore in Liverpool uniform with half boots were worn (the later were reported very useful for secreting tobacco.
1866 Cadets wore a "...neat sailor like uniform of blue jacket and waistcoat with white trousers..." (Illustrated London News 30 June).
1880 Captain Miller decide that from henceforth all uniforms were to be purchased from the Liverpool Sailors' Home in Paradise Road, overlooking the Victoria Dock. It is long since demolished and is now waste ground. This arrangement was to continue until closure.
1880 1880 A Glengarry was the working cap worn on board on weekdays by all who were not Petty Officers. It was never worn off the ship. It was rather like the hat still worn today by French seamen. It was dark blue with a mottling of white at the edge. There was a dark blue pom pom on top and long black silk ribbons. It was common for the older cadets to tear these off New Chums' Glengarries. Reportedly it had two merits: it never blew off and it was excellent for polishing brass!

'Crimean' blue flannel shirts were worn. The colour came out until they had been washed many many times. A coarse blue serge shirt was worn on seamanship days

Uniform caps had a square flat peak and not turned down. It was bright green underneath. The cloth body was considered to be too tall at the crown. Cadets would remove the lining and reduce the height of the crown.

1882-4 The Petty Officers were re-titled Cadet Captains a tile that remained until closure nearly 100 years later. At this time their status was denoted by gold lace sleeve stripes. A broad one for Junior Cadet Captains, a narrow one for the Seniors.
1895 A new cap was introduced with a rounded peak. This as a result of much open dissent by cadets about the 'Cheese Cutter' cap. It was disliked by the POs because it caused less pain when used to swipe laggardly cadets!
1902 The 'Conway' uniform was worn. It was considered very smart.

The cap badge was the based on Royal Navy one except with a red shield and no crown. On weekdays on-board a plain peaked cap was worn with a pennant bearing the word Conway instead of the badge. The cadets attempted to wear the smallest possible cap, and to perch it on the back of the head. Once a reasonable distance form the ship it wa the vogue to wear the black strap and gold chin stays over the crown of the cap.

An eight button reefer jacket was worn. The buttons had anchor and the word Conway on them. On Sundays the 'short' jacket was worn.

Canvas deck shoes were worn.

QBs in their last term would convert their trousers into bell bottoms by sewing a V shaped piece of cloth into the bottom of the leg.

Dec 1917 Cadets were granted permission to enroll as Cadets RNR and wear regulation Naval uniform. The same privilege was accorded to Worcester and Pangbourne cadets. The traditional uniform was given up with some regret.
1933 The practice of removing the grommet from the otherwise very stiff and flat cap, soaking it in salt water until it became a shapeless mass was discouraged by the Captain.
1934 White flannels were still worn with uniform jackets.
1939-41 During the winter term Cadets wore SB's (navy blue single breasted jackets similar to battle dress tops) and dark blue trousers with no pockets (!), blue collarless shirts with white soft collars, black tie and white lanyard. The senior cadets wore their top buttons undone as sign of their superiority. In summer the dress was navy blue shorts, blue knee length socks and blue shirts without ties. Sleeves are rolled up very neatly and precisely. Reefers were worn on Sundays, holidays ands other special occasions.Caps had the RN cap badge. For morning divisions double breasted jackets were worn with blue cord on each lapel (Cadet RNR). During the summer term blue shorts or long navy blue trousers were worn. Cricket teams wore double breasted jackets or blazers, with white trousers.
1946 Only Cadet Captains and QBs were allowed pockets in their trousers.
1950 Caps had detachable white covers as in winter it was "Blue"rig. The covers were a pain as the had to be washed. As for the hat badge I seem to remember that the ones from the Sailors Home were a smaller version of the RN issue, so an "east of suez" version was purchased for your QB term. We also had the blue twist on the lapels, I believe the white one came in about 53 with buttons that had RNR on them.
Sep 1964

The full RN uniform was worn. Cadets held the rank Cadet RNR. A white cord was embroidered on each lapel (the same as Midshipmen wear today but without the white backing . For Sunday Divisions and for wearing with reefers black shoes were worn. These were spit and polished until the to caps resembled mirrors.

A white lanyard was worn around the neck. The knot of this was supposed to reswt just below the lapel cross over so the lanyard formed a neat V shape (see above). As cadets became more senior the knot tended to creep higher and higher. QBs were ruthless in ensuring that they and only they wore their knot so high the lanyard no longer formed a V but rather was a horizontal band from collar to collar. A running game of cat and mouse developed with officers demanding that the regulation V shape be adopted by QBs, the knot was always adjusted as soon as the officer moved on!

Cadet Captains now wore a gold device on the sleeve. Juniors a small one, Seniors one large one and the Chief Cadet Captain wore one on each sleeve. For everyday working rig collar barges were worn. Interestingly the prefects of the Prince Of Wales School, Nairobi, Kenya wore the same distinctive flash on their blazers.

1972 After agitation by cadets they were allowed to go ashore in civilian clothes providing these passed muster.
1974 Cadets were allowed to wear civilian clothes rather than uniform. The end was nigh.

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